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		<title>By: Eric Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug - Thank you for stumbling upon the post and the gentle encouragement to edit the video to post to YouTube. We had a vigorous discussion, but both co-panelists felt we had expressed &quot;surplus candor&quot; - and wanted their comments carefully edited. Verbatim posting, of course, is much easier... and delay became postponement became never completed. Having said that, I do want to go back and share the essence of the panel discussion: choose a neglected niche market for your ESL book, keep expectations in check, and enjoy your small following. We all felt that we learned by doing, and made &quot;good mistakes&quot; in our first drafts. All three authors took savvy suggestions from fellow ESL teachers and the latest versions seem far stronger than the early drafts. Bottomline: more informed eyes reading the books earlier would have been wiser. 

Compelling Conversations, for whatever reason, has sold far better than my two co-panelists&#039; outstanding books. I also chose a far more conservative approach to self-publishing by going with a publish on demand (POD) model that has allowed me to make more sales - and far greater profits. As a result, I&#039;m feeling far more positive about the experience and more comfortable being open about the self-publishing experiment. For me, the greatest surprise came from realizing the huge number of untrained English teachers working abroad and the significant number of very weak non-native English speakers teaching English (grammar only!) to English language learners around the world. The communicative approach seems more popular (and possible) in California than many other places. As a result, my communicative &quot;talk, talk, talk&quot; textbook revealed itself to be far more American than I had previously known. This reality hit me when I was hired as a ELT consultant for a Vietnamese high school (and later director of a new adult program), and had to completely revise Compelling Conversations for a new educational environment. 

Thank you for your question. 
Thank you, again, and</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug &#8211; Thank you for stumbling upon the post and the gentle encouragement to edit the video to post to YouTube. We had a vigorous discussion, but both co-panelists felt we had expressed &#8220;surplus candor&#8221; &#8211; and wanted their comments carefully edited. Verbatim posting, of course, is much easier&#8230; and delay became postponement became never completed. Having said that, I do want to go back and share the essence of the panel discussion: choose a neglected niche market for your ESL book, keep expectations in check, and enjoy your small following. We all felt that we learned by doing, and made &#8220;good mistakes&#8221; in our first drafts. All three authors took savvy suggestions from fellow ESL teachers and the latest versions seem far stronger than the early drafts. Bottomline: more informed eyes reading the books earlier would have been wiser. </p>
<p>Compelling Conversations, for whatever reason, has sold far better than my two co-panelists&#8217; outstanding books. I also chose a far more conservative approach to self-publishing by going with a publish on demand (POD) model that has allowed me to make more sales &#8211; and far greater profits. As a result, I&#8217;m feeling far more positive about the experience and more comfortable being open about the self-publishing experiment. For me, the greatest surprise came from realizing the huge number of untrained English teachers working abroad and the significant number of very weak non-native English speakers teaching English (grammar only!) to English language learners around the world. The communicative approach seems more popular (and possible) in California than many other places. As a result, my communicative &#8220;talk, talk, talk&#8221; textbook revealed itself to be far more American than I had previously known. This reality hit me when I was hired as a ELT consultant for a Vietnamese high school (and later director of a new adult program), and had to completely revise Compelling Conversations for a new educational environment. </p>
<p>Thank you for your question.<br />
Thank you, again, and</p>
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		<title>By: Doug King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 03:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just stumbled upon this webpage.  I&#039;d be very interested to see a transcript or video of this panel discussion.  Is there a link that to the discussion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just stumbled upon this webpage.  I&#8217;d be very interested to see a transcript or video of this panel discussion.  Is there a link that to the discussion?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - Thanks for the question. 

I&#039;ll be videotaping the presentation, and hope to post it. The use of hope is deliberate since I just regained access to my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; Thanks for the question. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be videotaping the presentation, and hope to post it. The use of hope is deliberate since I just regained access to my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Covone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Covone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any luck with the video?  I&#039;d love to see it too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any luck with the video?  I&#8217;d love to see it too!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://compellingconversations.com/blog/2010/01/25/passion-and-persistence-self-published-esl-authors-tell-their-stories/comment-page-1/#comment-14276</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent idea! Thank you for visiting and the encouragement. I will try to videotape it, and share my experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent idea! Thank you for visiting and the encouragement. I will try to videotape it, and share my experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Karenne Sylvester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karenne Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, Eric - I&#039;d like to hear more: better yet, video it!  Am sure that a lot of us would like to know more about your experiences!

Karenne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, Eric &#8211; I&#8217;d like to hear more: better yet, video it!  Am sure that a lot of us would like to know more about your experiences!</p>
<p>Karenne</p>
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		<title>By: izeby.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>izeby.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Passion and Persistence: Self-Published ESL Authors Tell Their Stories...&lt;/strong&gt;

Passion and Persistence: Self-Published ESL Authors Tell Their Stories\r\rIn this CATESOL panel discussion, three authors of ESL books will share the pleasures and perils of self-publishing as well as offer tips for those contemplating writing and pu...</description>
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<p>Passion and Persistence: Self-Published ESL Authors Tell Their Stories\r\rIn this CATESOL panel discussion, three authors of ESL books will share the pleasures and perils of self-publishing as well as offer tips for those contemplating writing and pu&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Roth</title>
		<link>http://compellingconversations.com/blog/2010/01/25/passion-and-persistence-self-published-esl-authors-tell-their-stories/comment-page-1/#comment-14231</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex - Thank you for that generous offer! 

The State CATESOL 2010 conferences doesn&#039;t take place until late April, but I will definitely send you a report on the panel discussion. If possible, I will also videotape it and post it on your fantastic set for EFL - and ESL - teachers and tutors. 

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex &#8211; Thank you for that generous offer! </p>
<p>The State CATESOL 2010 conferences doesn&#8217;t take place until late April, but I will definitely send you a report on the panel discussion. If possible, I will also videotape it and post it on your fantastic set for EFL &#8211; and ESL &#8211; teachers and tutors. </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds fascinating. How about typing up what all three of you say, videoing the whole thing or interviewing the other two and sticking it up here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds fascinating. How about typing up what all three of you say, videoing the whole thing or interviewing the other two and sticking it up here?</p>
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